Vietnam & Muziek De invloed van de Vietnamoorlog (1965-1975) op de westerse (pop)muziek.

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1 Vietnam & Muziek De invloed van de Vietnamoorlog (1965-1975) op de westerse (pop)muziek

2 Waar gaan we naar kijken? Historisch overzicht van het Protestlied Muzikale tegenstanders van de Vietnamoorlog: Protestliederen tijdens de Vietnamoorlog Muzikale voorstanders van de Vietnamoorlog De Invloed van de Vietnam oorlog op hedendaagse (pop) muziek Conclusies

3 Historisch overzicht van het Protestlied Protestlied: een lied dat de maatschappij bekritiseert (op de hak neemt), met als doel deze te veranderen 17e en 18 e eeuw  Strijdliederen (pro-oorlog)  Wilhelmus 19e eeuw  Beethoven; Eroica 20ste eeuw  Protest  oorlogProtest  maatschappij WOII  SjostakovitsjFolk, Blues Vietnam  Dylan, Country Joe, Iggy Pop Jimmy Hendrix, The Doors Irak  Green DayPunk, Hip Hop en als voorbeeld: U2

4 Protestliederen tijdens de Vietnamoorlog Country Joe & the fish: I Feel like I’m fixin’to die

5 Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men, Uncle Sam needs your help again. He's got himself in a terrible jam Way down yonder in Vietnam So put down your books and pick up a gun, We're gonna have a whole lotta fun. And it's one, two, three, What are we fighting for ? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, Next stop is Vietnam; And it's five, six, seven, Open up the pearly gates, Well there ain't no time to wonder why, Whoopee! we're all gonna die. Well, come on generals, let's move fast; Your big chance has come at last. Gotta go out and get those reds — The only good commie is the one who's dead And you know that peace can only be won When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come. Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow, Why man, this is war au-go-go. There's plenty good money to be made By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade, Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb, They drop it on the Viet Cong. Well, come on mothers throughout the land, Pack your boys off to Vietnam. Come on fathers, don't hesitate, Send 'em off before it's too late. Be the first one on your block To have your boy come home in a box.

6 Protestliederen tijdens de Vietnamoorlog Iggy Pop: Search and Destroy (1972) Excentriek, Joods, shockrock, VS = Nazi

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8 I'm a street walking cheetah with a hide full of napalm I'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb I am a world's forgotten boy The one who searches and destroys Honey gotta help me please Somebody gotta save my soul Baby detonates for me Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology ! Ain't got time to make no apology Soul radiation in the dead of night Love in the middle of a fire fight Honey gotta strike me blind Somebody gotta save my soul Baby penetrates my mind And I'm the world's forgotten boy The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy And honey I'm the world's forgotten boy The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy Forgotten boy, forgotten boy Forgotten boy said hey forgotten boy

9 Muzikale voorstanders van de Vietnamoorlog SSgt Barry Sadler: The ballads of the green berets (1966) Weken lang op nummer 1, ondanks de Beatles de Rolling Stones die Amerika aan het veroveren waren

10 Fighting soldiers from the sky Fearless men who jump and die Men who mean just what they say The brave men of the Green Beret Silver wings upon their chest These are men, America's best One hundred men we'll test today But only three win the Green Beret Trained to live, off nature's land Trained in combat, hand to hand Men who fight by night and day Courage deep, from the Green Beret Silver wings upon their chest These are men, America's best One hundred men we'll test today But only three win the Green Beret Back at home a young wife waits Her Green Beret has met his fate He has died for those oppressed Leaving her this last request Put silver wings on my son's chest Make him one of America's best He'll be a man they'll test one day Have him win the Green Beret

11 De Invloed van de Vietnam oorlog op hedendaagse (pop) muziek Bruce Springsteen: Born in the USA (1984) Amerikaanse volk laten zien hoe zwaar vrienden van hem het in Vietnam hebben gehad Protest tegen de het respectloze gedrag van vele Amerikanen richting Vietnam veteranen  zowel geen financiële ondersteuning als geen helden status

12 De Invloed van de Vietnam oorlog op hedendaagse (pop) muziek Biohazard: Remember (1994) Brooklyn (NY) Kinderen van Veteranen

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14 Here's a dedication To the men and women who've served in Vietnam From our generation to you and your family... Respect is long overdue Memories of blood, red, white, blue Orange skies at night, southeast Asia knew You were called to serve and you did it well For us you've made a round-trip through hell Wars within wars, within wars To survive you made your own laws Every day and night to stay alive You kept your head down and your powder dry Memories of families It's God i've known Take me home Now you live asking God why He didn't take you when your brothers all died Explosions shake the dreams in your head at night in bed Don't wake him up or you'll end up dead Try to understand his pain He still sees blood stains that remain In his heart and mind, try to numb the pain People think they understand Sat watching TV back on quiet land They spit on you now we'll spit back for you Our hearts, our voice, gift of our hands What can they do for you and those who served And died, we pay respect to the families Who still cry Your kids are now full grown With the love and pride you should have known

15 Conclusie: Invloed van de Vietnamoorlog op de muziek Reeds gespannen verhouding tussen twee generaties werd verder op scherp gezet door: spot te drijven met verschillende muziek stromingen (Country Joe &the Fish) en door extremere muziek te maken qua tekst (The Doors) en uitvoering (Iggy Pop). Muziek zorgt ook voor uiterlijke veranderingen: Hippies (anti-Vietnam) gaan deels de mode beheersen Volledige doorbraak van het fenomeen “protestlied”  nu niet meer weg te denken uit de top-40 Muziek verandert van entertainment  politiek/maatschappelijk klankbord

16 Conclusie II: Invloed van Muziek op de Vietnamoorlog Protestgeneratie die de oorlog vanuit Amerika probeerde te beëindigen werd ondersteund (dolkstoot legende) Politici werden onderdruk gezet (muzikanten zijn immers invloedrijk) Bevolking werd gewezen op de onzinnigheid van de oorlog Demoralisatie van de soldaten in Vietnam (radio Saigon) In de jaren’80 en ‘90 (twintigste eeuw) dwingt het meer respect voor de veteranen af bij de regering Reagan  verbetering positie